Thoughts on AGX vs. Tokico HTS short stroke shocks
Bang for the buck, I would say that AGX far exceeds HTS. Let's say the HTS are 10% better (which is really rather hard to quantify, unless there are serious flaws with the AGX, which there aren't) than the AGX, but the HTS are 100% more expensive than the AGX. That does leave the AGX WAY out in the lead as far as "bang for the buck".
In the past, I have always used Tokico Illuminas on my other cars (97 Eclipse GST and 91 SW20 MR2). I was very pleased with the Illuminas and felt that the "sport" ride quality and control was awesome. Both of those cars have seen serious street, Auto-X, and road race time and run coilovers at all 4 corners.
For the AE86, I decided to experiment with AGX since the price differential was so great. I have only used the SW20 MR2 front AGX and Camaro rear AGX on the AE86, with coilovers at all four corners and shortened strut casings in the front.
So far, I have been very pleased with the AGX's handling both on the track and off the track. Ride quality is not as quite as smooth as the Illuminas in all conditions, but under sport or race conditions, they work just as well in my opinion.
The dampening adjustment range on the AGX will meet nearly everyone's needs. At the softest settings, the car is almost - but not quite - cushy. At the stiffest setting, they are so stiff, it feels like you are using rocks for springs.
The only complaint with the Tokico HTS, and this is something people need to take into consideration, is that if you shorten the strut casings by 40mm, your car will have a height range of "really low" to "slammed". You will not be able to achieve "just sporty low". The super short stroke of the shock limits the range of adjustment you have with the coilovers. I know this from experience, since we have built several of the shortened strut casing coilover setups using the TRD and HTS short strokes.
AGX on the other hand (since they are not quite as short stroke as the HTS's) will allow you a slightly larger range of workable height settings on the car and possibly help you match your rear lowering springs more effectively.
The GAB and AGX shocks are indeed nearly the same - other than a little softer valving on the AGX. But remember, we are pulling these AGXs off much heavier cars (MR2, Camaro, etc.) so the valving is probably just as stiff or a little stiffer than the GAB shocks.
When it comes down to the final decision, it's all up to you. People can argue Koni, KYB, Illumina, Bilstein, HTS all day long and it all seems to be somewhat subjective.
As long as the struts work for me, are stiff enough for me, have enough range of adjustment, provide balanced handling, and don't wear out/blow out in a short amount of time, then I'm obviously going to base my decision on the price.
You can definitely tell "crappy" shocks or shocks that just "don't cut it", from the ones that do. The AGXs definitely "cut it" as far as I'm concerned. |